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Forget Harry Reid's response to Bush's speech. Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, he hit the right notes. Yeah, yeah, yeah ... all that and more.

But flying under the radar as far as I can tell from a quick search of recent diaries, is the fact that Reid pulled a masterful piece of Machiavellian statecraft this afternoon by recommending four Republican senators - Lindsey Graham, Mel Martinez, Mike DeWine and Mike Crapo - as possible nominees for the Supreme Court.

To me, Reid performed a preemptive strike on the obstructionist charge by proactively suggesting four acceptable GOP nominees. This is a strategy of beauty, in my eyes. He's not suggesting any wild-eyed soft "leftie" candidates - he's offering up the names of Republican stalwarts and signaling the Democrats can live with them.

Of course, these four are probably too sane to even be considered by the Bush administration. But that's okay. Reid is going to reap credit for going with the flow and recommending Republicans - preemptively.

Gotta love it.

Originally posted to Susan Gardner on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 08:33 PM PDT.

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  •  I think it's a great, proactive idea. (4.00)
    I just hope the GOP doesn't use this to say, "What, does he want these guys out of the Senate for some reason?  So Dems can take their seats?"  (not that it's likely, especially in Graham's and Crapo's cases)
    •  I thought the same thing ... (3.96)
      about the response ... that we just might want their seats.

      But come on -- Florida? Idaho? Ohio? South Carolina? Don't the governors appoint a replacement (you can see I'm sketchy on the details of appointing for senatorial terms)?

      How likely is it that a Dem could get any of those seats? Not very (although with the GOP tanking day-by-day, Florida and Ohio would seem a possibility in an election).

      •  Very smart of Reid (4.00)
        I agree.  I'm just crazier and crazier about that man.

        "But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore"--Prine

        by Cathy on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 08:41:58 PM PDT

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      •  I think the Govs of all (none)
        those states are GOP.  They'd have to survive special elections if Republicans were appointed by Republican Govs.
      •  How well do you think (4.00)
        A Senator appointed by the Govenor of Ohio will do in their first election?

        Come see the house that Tom Delay built.

        by Goldfish on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 09:08:35 PM PDT

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        •  True (4.00)
          There will be payoffs not to be appointed in order to actually win an election down the line.
        •  can the governor (4.00)
          make appointments from prison?
        •  Dosn't matter. (none)
          I'd trade a senator, and by that I mean ANY senator, for a supreme court justice.
        •  DeWine (none)
          DeWine is facing a really rough re-election bid in 2006 anyway. Ohio has been rocked by its own statewide GOP problems, let alone the problems that Bush's incompetence has forced upon the whole country.

          Remember, Bush barely squeaked through in Ohio due to a bunch of ugly voter suppression strategies and vote-counting irregularities. (He may have legitimately won, but it's impossible to say for sure because the recount was a sham.) Voinovich, who just got re-elected, is way more popular than Bush. DeWine isn't. Unless the Dem competition is pathetic -- which it often is in Ohio -- DeWine stands a good chance of losing his seat.

          If it weren't for the fact that DeWine probably isn't loony enough to satisfy Bush's radicals, it would be a smart bargain for them. The GOP would be given a chance to field a fresh face with a better shot than DeWine in '06 if they started now.

          But Reid's got them pegged. No way are they going to bite; their hubris will be their downfall.

      •  Let me try again! Smart all the way around (4.00)
        I think if we recruit a good candidate in any of those states - in the current climate - and the DSCC provides some fundage, we have a shot... Especially in Ohio and Florida.  Things are finally going south for reverse Robin Hood and his not-so-merry band.
      •  Martinez (none)
        Well, hold on a minute, there.  You hit an interesting point about Martinez.

        Right now, there are a couple of Republican-on-Republican dogfights brewing that Jeb! would LOVE to reshape.

        I doubt he'd involve himself in the Senate race between Harris and Bense that's forming, since either way Harris is on the ballot in '06 since (unless I'm wrong about the state constitution) there'd have to be a special election for whomever is appointed, and there's no reason to highlight Katherine's name on a ballot in '06 (hence the support among the Bush bros. for Bense: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/6/17/123633.shtml).

        More likely, you'll see one of the gubernatorial candidates appointed to the seat.  Attorney General Charlie Crist is looking good to win the Republican nomination, though Jeb! has been a fan of Lt. Gov Toni Jennings and wanted her to run for his job (he's term-limited).  

        Jeb! could improve his image among women by appointing Jennings to fill Martinez's seat if he's appointed.  Or, barring that, Vern Buchanan is Martinez's top fundraiser and a candidate for Katherine's open seat, but he could fund himself in a special election to hold the seat, meaning state party funds could focus on the other statewide offices and congressional races.  It would reshape the dynamic of the FL-13th primary, but Jeb! thinks the seat is probably going Republican, so he's not too worried about who the nominee ends up being (his mistake).

        Either way, Jeb! helps himself, Dubya helps his brother AND makes Martinez the first Hispanic-American Chief Justice (assuming it's Rehnquist that goes).  Watch how Martinez's name is received.

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        by JR on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 01:18:11 AM PDT

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        •  But (4.00)
          The trick of suggesting Martinez is that it blunts any criticism we'll get from balking at Abu Gonzales or Miguel Estrada being named.

          We'll have a Latino Supreme by the end of Bush's term, I'd bet money on it. Let's just hope it's one who wants to shut DOWN Gitmo, rather than the guy who rationalized the torture at Gitmo in the first place.

          This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

          by emptywheel on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 06:15:15 AM PDT

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    •  A SC seat is way more valuable than a Senate seat (none)
      like, 11 times more valuable.  And you get it for life.

      We must be the party of truth.

      by Easy B Oven on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 05:29:11 AM PDT

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  •  Owch! (4.00)
    I can't imagine going through grade school being named "Mike Crapo". That's my erudite contribution to this discussion.
  •  that is great (none)
    Recommended.  A marvelous move by Harry.

    Thanks for the info.

  •  LOL (none)
    I almost made the same remark, swear to God.
  •  I was thinking the same thing, but... (none)
    then I thought that it would be fine to replace Rhenquist with one of these guys, but here is no way I want Ginsberg replaced by one of the four.

    Hell, I don't even want O'Connor replaced by one of those four. And if O'Connor or Ginsberg retires, Bush will put Crapo or Graham in that seat, and we won't be able to do anything about it because Reid pre-approved them.

    And then the assault on Roe v. Wade will begin in earnest.

    •  Amen, and (none)
      I still don't trust Reid any farther than I can throw him.
      •  Oh - I trust Harry (4.00)
        But I hope he has thought this through. Everyone thinks that Rhenquist is going, but it could easily be O'Conner and Rhenquist. And Ginsberg's health is always a question.

        Anyway - I want a fight. Harry should want a fight on this issue also. It is a winner for us - the majority of the public is not ready to kiss off Roe v. Wade. Let Bush put a zealot up for consideration, and watch us win the battle of public opinion on that one, while mobilizing women for upcoming elections like they've never been mobilized before.

        All in all - I still like Harry. I think in his heart he's a fighter.

        •  One Thing About Reid (4.00)
          so far he seems to have thought every move through. That by itself shoots away half the strategy of the Republican Revolution.

          We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

          by Gooserock on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 09:09:15 PM PDT

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          •  I agree (none)
            Reid knows there may well be two Supreme Court vacancies this summer. I think he knows what he is doing. I suspect this is just the first move in a series of steps that will help frame the battle in a way favorable to us.

            Thank God we have someone intelligent handling this, rather than idiotic Joe Biden, whose gross incompetence and love of hearing himself talk put us on the wrong foot from day 1 of the Clarence Thomas hearings.

          •  Re: thinking moves ahead (none)
            I can just see Reid and Dean talking -- I think they both have the ability to think many moves ahead like that. And to see the whole at a glance. Bet they have a blast comparing ideas.

            Lucky for the rest of us (Dems/USA/World).

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            by AllisonInSeattle on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 12:23:47 AM PDT

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        •  i'm bettin' harry plays chess... (none)
          while bush is still trying to figure out which color he should use in chinese checkers!

          harry is always 6 to 10 steps ahead of the bushies... and he's checkmated them quite well, so far!

          brilliant!  he is effectively removing their "obstructionist" claim before bush has even had the opportunity to PICK a nominee!

          the best strategy to winning in a bad situation is give your opponent two choices - both of which are acceptable to you - and the sucker has to either pick one or seem indecisive!

          brilliant, harry!  brilliant!

          War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Long Live Oceana!

          by edrie on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 11:41:32 PM PDT

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          •  The best part... (none)
            ... is that by tossing these names out there, he's sowing potential future conflict within the GOP caucus.

            When an opening occurs, the White House is going to have to call all of these guys and tell them why they weren't considered or selected.  

            Think that goes over well with someone with the ego of a US Senator??

            Plus he's now stirred up months of internal GOP debate in which the fundies are going to squawk about why these guys are unacceptable to them.

            Think someone with the ego of a US Senator wants to hear that from someone who's supposed to be on the same side??

            I love this move.

            "I intend to live forever. So far, so good." Steven Wright

            by gsbadj on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 06:03:55 AM PDT

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    •  Ruth won't go (none)
      I have no inside info, but I would bet that Ruth B-G will be like Thurgood Marshall was - he was in very poor health but was determined to stick it out to the end, and when his clerks asked him what they should do if he just couldn't work any more, said "Just wheel me out there and keep writing the opinions!"

      Ruth will stick it out until 2008 at least, I'm betting.

    •  Ginsburg is there for awhile (4.00)
      Ruth is 72 which is older than I thought she was, but I have a feeling she'll be around for another 10 years.

      It's Stevens we need to worry about.  He's 85, 5 years older than Rehnquist and 10 years older than O'Connor, yet it's Bill and Sandy we always hear retire rumors about.

      If a Dem was president I imagine Stevens would retire this week, but I have a feeling he's trying to hold out.  

      It's not a bad job for an old guy.  You have a team of clerks to do all the heavy lifting, so if you're mind is still working clearly, there's really no reason to leave that job.

      •  Fortunately... (4.00)
        ...it's my understanding Stevens is in good health.

        But I probably just jinxed that.

        Rehnquist is just two or three years shy of William O. Douglas' SCOTUS longevity record.  Douglas, who was Stevens' predecessor, served from 1939 until 1975.  Douglas is a hero to me, the greatest and fiercest liberal warrior our government has ever known.  I'd even put him ahead of Wellstone.  

        --Anne ** ** ** ** ** ** "Hyena crawls on his belly out. The town is safe again tonight." --jms

        by asskicking annie on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 11:04:33 PM PDT

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      •  Yep (4.00)
        I'm not at all a religious man, but every once in a while I put in a prayer that John Paul Stevens remains healthy and well.  (Heck, we should at least counter the disgusting "prayers" of Robertson et. al. that Stevens and Ginzburg step down or die.)  We should send Stevens vitamins like we sent Boxer roses.  He'll stick around until 2009, no doubt about it, as long as he is able.

        -- Stu

    •  Graham is not so bad.... (none)
      He at least is able to go beyond black and white, right or wrong.  I think I could live with him in the Supreme Court.  Mel Martinez on the other hand----not so sure.  He's campaigned as a real MF'er here in Florida.
  •  This is a great strategy .... (4.00)
    for nominations...but I hope he doesn't adopt it in policy arenas.  If they propose ANYTHING on Social Security, it would be walking right into the BushCo trap.

    Ammendments on bills, or suggestions concerning investigations....fine, but stay away from policy statements for now, since they will only be the subject of mega scorn and engage the administration in the mud.

  •  It's a nice idea for propaganda (4.00)
    Not that Bush was seriously considering any of those guys, or would.

    Of course, Reid could not endorse anyone who is seriously under consideration for the Court because his endorsement would be the kiss of death. For a serious candidate, an endorsement from Reid would be tantamount to having "Souter" tattooed on his forehead.  :D

    This is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.

    by socal on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 08:42:10 PM PDT

    •  Of course he wouldn't.... (4.00)
      ....suggest anyone a Democrat would suggest...even if they suggested his own brother....hey, wait a minute...now I think we're really on to something.

      Reid should suggest all the absolute crazy, wacko wingnuts he can think of....and the prideful Chimp would avoid them just because he can't be told what to do by anyone.

      Now, that would take brass ones, but it might work.....

  •  Brilliant (none)
    DeWine, for all his short comings, would at least be a champion for the environment and the rule of law.
    •  and crapo (4.00)
      has been pretty consistent in his criticism of the authoritarian aspects of the patriot act. replacing rehnquist with a closet libertarian might not be a bad trade, assuming crapo's not off the deep end on other legal issues (hey idahoans, mcjoan, any thoughts?).

      crimson gates reek with meat and wine/while on the streets, bones of the frozen dead -du fu (712-770)

      by wu ming on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 09:12:27 PM PDT

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      •  As a former Idahoan... (4.00)
        Crapo is the best of the bunch there.  Of course, when you are compared to Steve Symms, Helen "Salmon are not endangered because they come in cans" Chenoweth, and Larry Craig.  

        Crapo is more of a libertarian bent then most of the others, but then again, so is Idaho in general.  

        •  Idahoans (none)
          On a side note and the bright side, Idahoans elected and then reelected three times a noted liberal -- Frank Church.  Frank Church defeated an incumbent in 1956, and then won reelection three times before major league a$$hole Steve conservative Steve Symms defeated him in 1980.  Church also was a Democratic presidential candidate in 1976.

          In Virginia, where I was raised and still live, we progressives dream of electing a Senator like Frank Church.  The best we've ever done is Chuck Robb, who in 2000 was defeated by a complete moron, jerk, and premier chickenhawk -- George Allen.  Robb himself casted some difficult votes in his 12-year Senate career -- against the Flag Desecration Amendment and the so-called "partial birth" abortion, one of 14 Senators voting against the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996, one of 33 Senators who voted to allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military, etc.  These votes are not easy to cast when you represent a state with so many millitary bases.  Still, I hope some day Old Dominion realizes it can do better than its current Senators.  After all, as former Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle once said, "A Senate seat is a terrible thing to waste."

          •  That was old Idaho (none)
            The strong Democratic surge the state had through the end of the 60s and in the 70s was in very, very large part due to labor. We had a good chunk of eastern Idaho, around Pocatello, and most of the panhandle because of organized labor, particularly miners.

            The elections in 1980 and the rise of the so-called Reagan Democrats among the blue collar and labor constituencies did severe damage to the Party. Then the legislature passed the right to work law in 1986, and that was all she wrote for labor in the state, and largely for the Democrats. It's been absolute hell since.

            Frank Church was a great, great man (and a family friend--full disclosure here--my Dad was State Party chair in those glory days). He's my one true political hero, and inspiration. It's largely because of him that I'm as involved in politics as I've been.

            lib·er·al: Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.

            by Joan McCarter on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 12:49:50 PM PDT

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      •  Just saw this (none)
        Crapo's definitely not a towering intellect. Not a dunce, either, but not someone you'd look at and say, "Wow, he should be on the Supreme Court!" He's a Mormon and generally votes like one. Meaning choice would be a big problem. Like that's a surprise with any Republican nominee.

        I managed a House campaign against him in 96 (a sacrificial lamb campaign--we didn't have a prayer). There wasn't a lot to oppose him on in Idaho. He's very conservative. But also very principled, very careful.

        I haven't paid particularly close attention to him in a while, but those are my impressions from past experience. I guess it's basically you could probably do worse.

        lib·er·al: Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.

        by Joan McCarter on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 12:43:09 PM PDT

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    •  hmmm. (none)
      League of Conservation Voters gives him a zero, same as Crapo. Graham gets a 17, but those might be last year's numbers.

      Mother Nature bats last.

      by pigpaste on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 10:19:05 PM PDT

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  •  If Bush rejects these 4 (4.00)
    it will look like he slapped them in the face

    Every man for himself.

    by JLFinch on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 09:04:56 PM PDT

  •  Not Martinez! (4.00)
    As a Floridian, I can tell you that Martinez is NOT acceptable! He's a Dubya clone, a fundie neocon, and he's been right at Jebby's elbow in the Schiavo case.
  •  Let's all take a moment (none)
    and say a little prayer/wish good karma/think nice thoughts/sacrifice a goat for the continued good health of the liberals on the Court (Stevens, Ginsburg, Breyer and honorary liberal Souter). Heaven help us if Bush gets more than 1 or 2 of his loonies in there.

    "I told them on Inauguration Day. I said look into my eyes: no new enhancements." - President Johnny Gentle (Famous Crooner)

    by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 09:17:59 PM PDT

  •  I Caught (none)
    Nine kinds of Hell from people on election night, because my response to Daschle's loss was "Good Riddance". I was sure I was right then, and feel totally vindicated now.

    OTOH, I was expecting the worst from this guy named "Reid", a Pro-Life Mormon that I'd not heard of.

    I've never in my life been so happy to be have been wrong! This guy is brilliant.

    Tom DeLay is so corrupt...<HOW CORRUPT IS HE?>...He's so corrupt that when he takes the Oath of Office, he holds his hand OUT instead of UP!

    by mlkisler on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 09:19:34 PM PDT

    •  I am so with you! (4.00)
      I had people calling me names (really!) for that exact same "good riddance" comment.  Daschle had become, not a DINO, but at least a "non-Dem" to me.

      I was NOT thrilled with Reid taking his place at first, but I have mea culpa-ed myself into submission many times since then.  I think harry is a political chess master.  I can listen all day long to his soft, calm grandfatherly voice gently evicserating the other side of the isle.  He's a tremendous and oh-so-welcome surprise.

      Go forth and kick ass, Senator Reid.  You have my support.

      There is nothing noble about voting based on who Jesus tells you to hate. ~ JamesB3

      by CJB on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 10:22:21 PM PDT

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  •  Reid forces Republicans to provide for veterans (4.00)
    He's on fire.  He also is forcing the Republicans to act to provide more money on vets.  

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050628/ap_on_go_co/congress_veterans_7

    The article has an unfortunate title, but immediately notes that they're doing this to stop political damage, quotes Reid first, and notes that Democrats had tried to do this earlier.  

  •  While were talking about retiring justices... (none)
    ...why not take a listen to The Supremes by the Capitol Steps.

    And while were talking about the Capitol Steps, don't forget their classic Help Rwanda!

  •  Not that it's gonna happen... (none)
    Because it would actually be reasonable...but Lindsey Graham would be a pretty decent choice.

    The guy actually believes the Geneva Conventions mean something...

  •  Harry Reid (none)
    for President

    ==== The More You Know *

    by ZT155 on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 10:43:16 PM PDT

  •  More names, real issue (none)
    Harry Reid knows that Bush is gonna pick some real right winger whacko, I mean worse than scalia and Thomas, some real fuckface like Alberto Gonzalez or John (Enron, what's Enron, I'm only the Texas State Attorney General) Cornyn.  Before the screaming begins and Bush starts talking obstruction he wants to say, hey I tried, man, and he wouldn't listen.  Pretty shrewd, but Bush will never pick Graham (already disloyal by even questioning Iraq or Abuschwitzgraib) DeWine, Martinez means an eventual wild card election in states that could get tough and Crappo, don't think so, not fanatic and confrontational enough for the religious freaks and retards.    

    Sometimes, out of the most ordinary looking vessel can flow the most extraordinary wine.

    by normcash on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 10:55:42 PM PDT

    •  My money's... (none)
      ...on Ted Olson, a certfiable wingnut mental case.

      --Anne ** ** ** ** ** ** "Hyena crawls on his belly out. The town is safe again tonight." --jms

      by asskicking annie on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 11:11:27 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah (none)
        That's the ticket, a real fuckin' asshole and another good prospect if he isn't 200 years old is C. Boyden Gray, another real lying prick.  My money is on Alberto, though, Bush loves to give people the idea that the american dream is alive and well.  Alberto, who said the Constitution is an outdated document, fits right in with this nest of paranoid fanatic ignorant arrogant dangerous lying psychopaths.

        Sometimes, out of the most ordinary looking vessel can flow the most extraordinary wine.

        by normcash on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 11:20:51 PM PDT

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      •  And a 9/11 conection to parade out (none)
        in front of critics.

        It's sad and tragic when a person loses a spouse, but it will be gross when they exploit it to get him confirmed.

        And don't for a minute think they won't.

        Did you notice Scalia's referance to 9/11 in his opinion regarding the Ten Coms?  It's coming!

        You only regret the things you don't do.

        by DailyLife on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 05:43:27 AM PDT

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  •  More names two (none)
    You left out red Sox pitcher from the 70's:
    Dick Pole

    Larry Bird was from French Lick, Indiana

    Sometimes, out of the most ordinary looking vessel can flow the most extraordinary wine.

    by normcash on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 10:56:58 PM PDT

  •  Political Judo (none)
    That's the flip side of my "advice" for Bush, in the event of multiple SC vacancies: I think that a political masterstroke for him to use his first slot to appoint... Elliot Spitzer.

    Think about it: It would give him moderation chips to cash in until the end of his term; it would take Spitzer out of New York politics before he could flatten whoever the GOP runs against him; and Spitzer is not exactly a bleeding heart when it comes to criminal issues.

    But the most significant thing it would accomplish is to get him down to Washington, DC, and away from Bush's corrupt Wall Street cronies. In the Supreme Court, he would be one voice of nine ruling only occasionally on Wall Street issues; in New York, he's breathing down the necks of the Enrons of the world every day. Remove him from the equation, and the only guard left on the hen house would be Bush's tame SEC.

    And, like I said, it would give Bush enough moderation credits that he could probably ram Dobson himself (or Roy Moore) through Congress for a subsequent vacancy.

    Of course, the chances of Bush doing something like this are substantially on the zeroer side of none whatsoever. Bush doesn't do judo, or comromise, or give-and-take; in mathematical terms, he's strictly a "Greedy Algorithm" kind of guy.

  •  Reid also only picked from states with GOP Govs (none)
    which means that Republicans can't just argue its a political trick to get a Democrat appointed where he can't get one elected.  

    I mean, yeah, that'd be a pretty basic response which should be anticipated by any competent political strategist, but any time I see evidence of competency and strategic thinking in the Democratic leadership, it suprises me and makes me happy.  

  •  I have to admit ... (none)
    I was fearful when Reid first became our Senate leader but, my respect for the man as grown each day. He's doing a great job with a polite, subtle
    style.
  •  i love this guy. Reid 08? (none)
    he's one tough cookie. just what we needed to thwart the 2nd term agenda. he has been smart, cool and collected since taking over as minority leader. just think if daschle was still in there. the fillibuster would likely be dead, for one thing.
    Why is harry never mentioned as a possible 08 nominee? is it his abortion stance? what?
    He has a spotless record as far as i know, and a big telegenic family. the stormin mormon could kick some ass with the values voters, i think.
  •  Could you imagine the freepers if (none)
    Bush nominated Graham (gang of 14) or DeWine?? My God, their heads would spin off of their bodies!!

    "If you are not outraged, you are not paying attention."

    by adigal on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 04:53:05 AM PDT

    •  Oh, God, yes! (none)
      The thing is, Obi-Reid's using the Freepers' own hatred against them.  They are predisposed to hate anything that a Democrat touches.  And Reid -- aka "The Jim Whisperer" who got Jeffords to switch parties -- is one of the Democrats that they hate the most.
  •  Confused. (none)
    I don't really understand the Supreme Court nomination process, so maybe someone here can help. I was under the impression that nominees are supposed to come from the courts of appeals, but none of these guys do, so obviously I'm wrong about that. Are nominees simply required to have a legal background? Do all of these senators meet that qualification? Thanks.

    "How freeing it must be to walk through this world heeding neither conscience nor soul." - the rude pundit, 5/4/05

    by pattyp on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 05:31:34 AM PDT

    •  You can be a ham sandwich... (4.00)
      ...and get nominated to the Supreme Court.  (Same goes for Attorney General.)

      Clarence Thomas had less than two years as a judge under his belt, and less than five years of legal experience outside of law school, when Joe Biden ignored his perjury and waved him onto the court.

    •  No Experience Necessary (none)
      In much the same counterintuitive way that the job requirements for Pope are less stringent than those for Cardinal, the job requirements for Supreme Court Justice are less stringent than those for Cicuit Court Judge.

      I don't know about the others, but Graham was a JAG lawyer in the Air Force Reserve. I suspect that all of them are at least lawyers.

  •  Proposed SCOTUS Nomination Meme (none)
    If Bush wants to be a Uniter not a Divider, he'll appoint a moderate to the Supreme Court. This is his big chance.  
  •  Nice take on this: (none)
    From firedoglake.  Heading: "Why I won't play poker with Harry Reid."

    I agree: It's really good strategy, any way you look at it.

    We're just getting started.

    by jem6x on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 08:23:27 AM PDT

  •  DeWine, Graham, Martinez, and Crapo (none)
    I think the four Senators (in the subject) Sen. Reid mentioned are about the best we are going to get under this President.  All four are certainly better than Republican Sens. John Cornyn (Tex.), Jeff Sessions (Ala.), and Jon Kyl (Ariz.).  All four Senators -- DeWine, Graham, Martinez, and Crapo -- are conservatives but not nearly as rigid in their ideology as Sens. Cornyn, Sessions, and Kyl.  DeWine, Graham, Martinez, and Crapo also don't repeatedly make outlandish remarks like Cornyn and Sessions (who was rejected by the Republican-controlled Senate Judiciary committee in 1986 for his outlandish remarks).

    Sen. DeWine is probably the best of the bunch, although I still have serious issues with him.  His 8 March 2000 votes against cloture on Clinton nominees Richard Paez and Marsha Berzon and then support for the nuclear option call into question his partisanship.  Sen. DeWine, in addition, promoted Jeff Sutton -- a vigorous opponent of disability rights -- to a Sixth Circuit.

  •  Thumbs up for Crapo. (none)
    Just because I want to hear "the Honorable Judge Crapo."
  •  It's the medium... (none)
    I didn't hear a thing about Reid's comments yesterday until I read this blog today.  However, I sure as hell saw the advertisement on Hardball warning conservatives that the Dems will obstruct and object to ANY nominee that Bush proposes.  It's a basic tenet of persuasion that you can inoculate an audience against your opponent's argument but warning them in advance that of what your opponent will do or say.  Now, no matter how well-founded the objection is to any nominee, many who saw that ad will sagely nod there heads and say "I was warned about this - those Dems are at it again."

    When will we ever learn?

  •  I don't get it (none)
    Have we ever had a Senator or Congressman go on to serve in the Supreme Court?  I realize that SCOTUS associates have varied backgrounds, and that some have served peripherally in political capacities (I think Kennedy was a lobbyist for a time), but this is just a peculiar scenario Reid proposes.

    Is he insinuating that the Legislative becomes a farm team for the Judicial?

    "The American people will trust the Democratic Party to defend America when they believe that Democrats will defend other Democrats." Wesley Clark

    by The Termite on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 09:37:46 AM PDT

  •  Man that Reid's crazy! (none)
    Crazy like a FOX!

    Wow, I like it. I like it a lot. Man, who knew this guy would play the game so well? I've been nothing but impressed.

    Now, if he can just help get his colleagues and friends to stop bitching about what Howard Dean says and get everyone on message all the time, 24/7 like the Rethugs are, then we're in bidnez.

    Blog this! Visit me at K Street Blues. It will change your life.

    by AggieDemocrat on Wed Jun 29, 2005 at 09:40:57 AM PDT

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